tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4384692836709903146.post8906291157847551506..comments2024-03-18T04:38:01.678-07:00Comments on Dispatch from the Digital Health Frontier: Electronic Health Records for Non-owned clinicians - Sharing data among providersJohn Halamkahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04550236129132159307noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4384692836709903146.post-10224512312068603692009-02-03T13:53:00.000-08:002009-02-03T13:53:00.000-08:00citizencontact, you say that "However, the United ...citizencontact, you say that "However, the United States makes this effort problematic by not having a comprehensive and universal health care system."<BR/>Please note that France, among other countries with universal health care, has been struggling for many years to develop shared health records - with no substantial success so far.Tonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05025156712523077800noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4384692836709903146.post-52377771998691082802008-11-11T13:52:00.000-08:002008-11-11T13:52:00.000-08:00As a primary care internist who has acquired elect...As a primary care internist who has acquired electronic access to 2 sites to which I refer patients, I can say the following:<BR/> - Access to the most recent clinical note regarding any visit at which a diagnostic or therapeutic decision is made, is extremely valuable.<BR/> - Access to phone call notes, and other administrivia is chaff that delays care and decisions<BR/> - The medication record is potentially of value, but is NEVER CORRECT - must always be verified point by point (med name, dose strength and form, administration times, reliability) or sad errors will occur.<BR/> - Access to actual pathology reports is invaluable<BR/> - Access to FLOW-CHARTED lab results is extremely helpful, especially if subsets such as lipid profiles or hemograms or lytes can be viewed.<BR/> - Non-flow-charted lab results can be a nightmare to parse intellectually<BR/> - Access to imaging reports is extremely valuable; access to images is seldom crucial except by surgeons or radiation oncologists or neurologists<BR/> - Problem lists are seldom maintained carefully; to verify their accuracy, it's useful to have access to H & Ps:<BR/> - Prior H & Ps are valuable for their lists of chronic ongoing issues and surgical events. But past history cannot be assumed to be reliable unless specific dates (month/year, at least) and specific jargon is used ("wide excision of Clarks Level 2 melanoma of the left chest wall Feb 1998" not "melanoma a few years ago")<BR/> - Summaries of major diagnostic events such as sleep studies, pulmonary function testing, echocardiograms and graded exercise tests are seldom easily found remotely but are very helpful during episodes of acute illness.<BR/> - "allergies" need to be subdivided into "medication allergies", "medication non-allergic intolerances" and "environmental and food allergies"<BR/><BR/>For 10 years I have used a word processor for medication management, with success. Three-column format<BR/>1: med, dose, form<BR/>2: instructions ('sig')<BR/>3: purpose (symptom or diagnosis)<BR/>Columns 2 and 3 are typed in patient-readable form.<BR/>The sheet is faxed to the patient's pharmacy or handed to the patient; the Rx symbol and administrative details are easily stripped from the document and handed to the patient as an instruction. Changes are bold-faced.<BR/> Caveat: I type 50+ wpm, so this is faster than hand-written prescriptions; this won't work for the ham-handed provider. <BR/>It is more customizable than EHR boilerplate, as I can add narrative text as needed. (I store them on disk for future access. The stored medlist is automatically saved to a drive in the transcription area for inclusion - cut and paste - to the dictated note.Danljhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12154327214811279127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4384692836709903146.post-32170152360574556102008-06-28T00:05:00.000-07:002008-06-28T00:05:00.000-07:00Hello, Doctor.The doctor in NC seemed to be asking...Hello, Doctor.<BR/><BR/>The doctor in NC seemed to be asking without knowing it for an online EMR system designed as software as a service. I am wondering if this where eClinicalWorks is heading. And do you think it would be the answer to getting the primary care doctors to buy into EMR so that the Personal Health Record could become more meaningful?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4384692836709903146.post-12945827985095393222008-06-26T08:59:00.000-07:002008-06-26T08:59:00.000-07:00Thanks for all these great comments. For clinical...Thanks for all these great comments. For clinical summary exchange we elected to use the <A HREF="http://www.bidmc.harvard.edu/sites/bidmc/geekdoctor/johnhalamkaccddocument.xml" REL="nofollow">Continuity of Care Document</A> which includes problems, medications, allergies, labs,results, and also next steps for followup. Here's an <A HREF="http://www.bidmc.harvard.edu/sites/bidmc/geekdoctor/kermit.xml" REL="nofollow">example</A> of one of our production documents.<BR/><BR/>These summaries are exchanged from provider to provider via the MA-Share gateway and the eClinicalWorks EHX respository for eClinicalWorks users.<BR/><BR/>This standard format makes the EHR data completely transportable.John Halamkahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04550236129132159307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4384692836709903146.post-4790427695155056602008-06-25T09:02:00.000-07:002008-06-25T09:02:00.000-07:00I am the managing partner for a 10 doc, three-site...I am the managing partner for a 10 doc, three-site pediatric practice in NC. I just found your blog after it was recommended by a doc in Australia...<BR/>I have been reluctant to consider EMR since our paper seems to work well for us. (Preprinted forms, state electronic vaccine registry, good PM system) We don't have patients on multiple medications since most kids are quite healthy. And in pediatrics, infant/child/adolescent problems can be very different for the different life stages so I am not convinced that I could practice better with an EMR. We did try electronic prescribing, but found it difficult to tailor the scripts for the varying dosages of drugs found in pediatrics. <BR/>(if the amount needed was 110 cc's, and I know the product came in only 100 cc bottles which would have been adequate, the program would "force" the pharmacist to fill 110 cc's - ie, charge twice as much and throw away 90 cc's...)<BR/><BR/>But my biggest reluctance stems from the lack of portability of the data once we spend the considerable effort to create it. If the vendor is acquired by another or decides to focus exclusively on another specialty, or dies, we would be stuck! I am very worried about entering into a business agreement without an exit. I feel that as per Business 101, if you cannot easily extract yourself from an unsatisfactory business relationship, you are essentially "owned" by the other entity. And there is no real incentive for an EMR vendor to design their product so you can leave easily. <BR/>I am not as worried about real-time exchange of data as I am with long term graceful extraction from a failed business decision.<BR/>Is headway being made on the problems associated with migration to a different EMR?<BR/>-Graham BardenGraham Bardenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09306976882573461169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4384692836709903146.post-76375869446663987032008-06-25T08:37:00.000-07:002008-06-25T08:37:00.000-07:00(this is a comment I made to http://news.cnet.com/...(this is a comment I made to http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-9976958-16.html )<BR/><BR/>This is issue has personal relevance since I have to apportion over 20-40 pills daily for a sick relative. There should have been a simple online system for helping manage this. The Google Health system API makes this more likely (there is already one application that does this, though seems very buggy. Open standards and open source would make this effort much better. <BR/><BR/>However, the United States makes this effort problematic by not having a comprehensive and universal health care system. Since health information is used to deny health care and employment (whether legal or not, since there is no guarantee which developed societies have as a given), the incentives run counter to normal networked systems and applications. <BR/><BR/>This is hard to prove in the abstract, but should become apparent if you understand the nature of networks that grow in power as they reach 100% of the potential audience and the analogous situation that a society is healthier person by person as closer to 100% is given the best care (e.g. vaccines, etc). <BR/><BR/>Nonetheless, we should support the effort of Dr. John Halamka, because by moving ahead on this open standards/source effort that may help explain the 100% is best rule for networks in the context of health care.citizencontacthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17322455969576431825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4384692836709903146.post-53590528278317327222008-06-25T07:45:00.000-07:002008-06-25T07:45:00.000-07:00Hi Dr H,How did you decide which data elements wou...Hi Dr H,<BR/><BR/>How did you decide which data elements would be included in the shared clinical summary?Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17360137861957194425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4384692836709903146.post-37418305632002860222008-06-24T20:54:00.000-07:002008-06-24T20:54:00.000-07:00I've been following this blog for a while now and ...I've been following this blog for a while now and i really like it alot!! As a college student interested in Health IT this really gives me a real world view of what's going on.. EHR talk is one of my favorites, im still not used to all the terms that professionals like you use on a daily basis, but i figure if i keep reading it'll all make sense.. thank you for starting this blog in the first place.StephSuphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00453490894993221869noreply@blogger.com